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Cartridge and phono stage stopped working at the same time

Helge

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I have an NVA MM Phono 1 with metal enclosure (purchased from a list-member years ago), which must be very old. One day it went bonkers with a howl-like sound. From then on, my cartridge (Ortofon 2M Blue) no longer worked, only outputting a faint signal with the volume turned all the way up -- on another, presumably working MM phono amp; I have in fact tried two brand new phono stages. When trying out the old amp again, it won't stop its antics when the needle is lifted, making some regular noise in the one channel, while the drivers in the other speaker are forcefully pumping in an out. Not to be tried again!

I suppose that amp is gone, but what kind of fault can this be? And has the generator system of the cartridge somehow got "fried"? I would like to think there's a connection between the two failures, but coincidences happen.

I installed another cartridge in another deck, and this cartridge doesn't work either (it has not been played on the Phono 1), just outputting a faint sound at max volume (is that the typical behavior of a damaged cartridge?). But it hasn't been used for at least 15 years, I think, so it's probably impossible to tell what happened to it.

Is it normal for phono cartridges to just stop working, when sitting there in the headshell without physical mishandling? I've had two other cartridges that just stopped working many years ago now; those weren't all that old either. Usually, you hear about snagged needles, bent cantilevers and stuff like that. I wonder if cartridges can be damaged by some kind of electrical rush... As you probably understand, I know little about these things.

My DAC works fine in the same preamp input as I use for phono. I have checked continuity with a multimeter between the headshell leads at the back of the cartridge to the plug on the amp end of the turntable interconnect. Dual mono P90sa + A80s (without heatsink).
 
The cartridges are just fine. It turned out that when the LAIV Harmony DAC was connected to the P90sa Dual mono preamp (using the Direct input) the signal from the phono amp was muted! In fact, this happened when the DAC was in standby mode. When the DAC was turned completely on, there was music from the phono amp, although a step weaker, and the right channel tended to fall out. I tried different phono amps, cartridges, tonearms, turntables and interconnects. It's only the combination of LAIV and P90sa. It works well with another DAC in the same system, or the LAIV Harmony in another system with an integrated amp of another brand. Weird.
 
The direct input bypasses the selector switch. If you are connecting more than one source to the preamp, then the direct input should not be used. If you are connecting only one source to the preamp, then the direct input can be used.
 
Oops, I didn't know that. I have used the Direct input for years. What wrong can exactly happen if one source takes the direct route from the attenuators and out, and the other(s) not? I'll reconnect tomorrow.

Richard Dunn once explained the function of the Direct feature on the input selector (which my preamp has). If the direct input (on the back) is used, it's possible to have sound from two sources at the same time, so the Direct feature (on the front) mutes the other inputs. I took that to mean that it's okay to combine direct and non-direct.
 
Oops, I didn't know that. I have used the Direct input for years. What wrong can exactly happen if one source takes the direct route from the attenuators and out, and the other(s) not? I'll reconnect tomorrow.

Richard Dunn once explained the function of the Direct feature on the input selector (which my preamp has). If the direct input (on the back) is used, it's possible to have sound from two sources at the same time, so the Direct feature (on the front) mutes the other inputs. I took that to mean that it's okay to combine direct and non-direct.
Running the direct input in conjunction with other inputs can confuse the user...as you have ably demonstrated ;)
 
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I'm scratching my head like mad.

I finally tested with all possibilities covered today. I used a second DAC as the "other" source instead of the phono amp (it didn't make a difference, of course).

A. Peachtree DAC into ordinary input, LAIV DAC into Direct. Problem unchanged (as expected, since it's as before).
B. Peachtree DAC and LAIV DAC into ordinary inputs. No problem!
C. LAIV DAC into ordinary input, Peachtree DAC into Direct. No problem!

Since the selector option called "Direct" is called just that, and mutes the other inputs, it must mean that it should be technically fine to use the direct input for one of the sources; the arrangement wouldn't make any sense otherwise. And it usually seems to be, but not anymore with the LAIV DAC into direct. Anyway, at the moment the sources are plugged into Phono and Aux.
 
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